I found a great group for you to join



4 Responses to “I found a great group for you to join”

  1. urstupidnourstupid Says:

    That’s funny–but actually if it takes root it would be great to hear Tea Party leaders start to trash them as not “real” Americans, etc.

    I did notice though that they say that the Federal government is not the enemy of the people. And I think that’s where the divide begins. Your “party” believes that the Fed. gov’t is the enemy, and goes about with a good deal of paranoia about it, and makes people choose between gov’t and private industry, when in actuality there should be an effort to work together. People in your camp would shit bricks if certain elements of the Fed gov’t disappeared.

  2. urstupidnourstupid Says:

    Pretty much true. I think you would be hard pressed to find anyone on the tea party side that would wish the Federal Government to disappear. Much like you won’t find many in the coffee movement who wish for the government to control everything. Everyone has their own acceptance level.

    I’m curious. Why do you think the tea party camp believes that the federal government is the enemy?

  3. urstupidnourstupid Says:

    That’s a good question. One with sociological aspects that I can sink my teeth into. Let’s look at the demographics first. Tea Party memebers are generally older, white, rural/suburban, “undereducated”, conservative, and more religious. I think that they see things more in black and white because they don’t have the education, knowledge or world experience necessry to see detail within a broader spectrum. I think they know they could never win a debate against better educated people (think Palin vs Obama) This is one reason they fear the gov’t and “elitists” because they know they are more knowledgeable and educated. I think they have a more difficult time articulating the issues and are more prone to being swept up in a moment of populism. For example, Tea Parties did not exist until a Black, young, liberal, “elite” man who partially grew up outside the US became president. It was a rallying cry that “our” nation was being overtaken. Obama was gonna take away guns, let gays in the military, “socialize” healthcare, give Iran our nuclear codes, all of this at a time when the economy was in the tank, we were fighting two wars against strange people with strange beliefs who wanted to kill all of us. Then throw in a plain talkin’ (like them) wilderness babe from Alaska, a paranoid dumbass with no education (Beck) who whip these folks into a frenzy, and suddenly it’s Obama and the Federal government who are the enemy. Their message that the gov’t needs to spend less is correct. But they act as if the gov’t is an intruder who wants to take away their rights–indoctrinate them. Remember the flap over letting kids watch an Obama speech in school? That the gov’t needs to get “off their backs” as if the gov’t is around every corner pestering them, making them stand in line and jump through hoops. Trust me, if the economy were better and Obama’s name was Jim Smith, (or John McCain) and he had waited two years to tackle healthcare, and Palin got trampled by a moose, there would be no Tea Party.

    So what do you think of this organization? Right off the bat, she seems more rational, less angry, more articulate, less threatening and less of a fear mongerer/divider than anything I’ve heard from the Tea Bags.

  4. urstupidnourstupid Says:

    Wow. Well that’s not quite what I was expecting. Well I just attended a Tea Party meeting to see what this whole thing was all about. The local chapter is run by a woman who was a corporate executive before she retired. The research team is headed up by a guy who designs racing parts for fun but can also design a manufacturing plant if you need one. I found the group overall were highly educated and knowledgable. There were several business owners, a teacher, a few engineers and my life insurance agent (yes, literally my agent.) In case you are interested, one black guy and one asian woman out of about 25 people. They understand the fiscal issues that we are faced with and they have a firm belief that this will not be solved just by voting Democrats out of office.

    Yes there were a few characters there that I would consider fringe right wingers. Yes I would say many of these people attend church on Sundays. But overall, they are concerned citizens who understand, like I do, that our fiscal path is not sustainable and the current government is not going to change things without a push from the people.

    I don’t know how involved I want to be given some of the fringe elements represented in this movement. But, the people I met with were unlike anything you described.

    I think your coffee girl would be more angry and fear mongerish if she actually ran the #s.

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