Cheney

So what do you think of ol’ Dick Cheney’s latest pronouncements? And the capture of the Taliban’s #2 man? Remember when he said not to question the President during a time of war and all that stuff? And now Obama is soft on terror? And terrorists shouldn’t be tried in Federal Court (even though his boss overruled him) And then he basically admitted to war crimes. I wonder if the guy is getting senile…
I wonder if he thinks we should start torturing the Taliban guy now or wait a few days. Ha ha!!

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5 Responses to “Cheney”

  1. urstupidnourstupid Says:

    Actually I don’t remember Cheney saying we should not question the President during a time of war. If he said it then I would say that is an asinine statement. I would actually like to know when and how he said that.

    If he believes that foreign born terrorists should be prosecuted in federal court then I disagree with him. And I think waterboarding is a prudent technique that should only be used in extreme circumstances in a very controlled environment.

    And for the record (again), I think all prisoners of war need to be prosecuted or let go at some point. Just not in our court system.

  2. urstupidnourstupid Says:

    In the big picture, I don’t see what difference where he is prosecuted. He’s not going free. And even though a military tribune sounds like the tough, macho thing to do, civilian courts have been batting 100%.

    It will be interesting to see how that guy is handled. If the Pakistanis take custody of him, he will be tortured. I would hope this country doesn’t see itself as equal to Pakistan. And again, my feelings aren’t for him–he can rot in hell–but for our country taking the higher road.

  3. urstupidnourstupid Says:

    Let me guess. You couldn’t find the Cheney quote. I thought so. You must have picked that up from Andrew Sullivan. You really should stop using him as a source 🙂 I think.

    I hardly would compare waterboarding in a very tightly controlled environment for only extraordinary circumstances where the threat is imminent to be on par with whatever Pakistan is doing.

    Prosecuting in our federal court system with our rule of law and constitutional rights presents many problems with foreign terrorists tryng to inflict harm on this country. The Christmas bomber is a shining example. A military tribunal is not a tough, macho thing. It’s a private don’t let US secrets out thing.

  4. urstupidnourstupid Says:

    I was paraphrasing something to the effect of: Asked by Chris Wallace if it’s legal when the president makes a decision to help the country when it’s fighting a war, Cheney said, “As a general proposition, I’d say yes.”

    How many terrorists have been found guilty in civil court? ALL OF THEM. How many are walking free? NONE OF THEM. How can you argue against a 100% conviction rate?

    Since 9/11, the United States has arrested and detained under criminal law all terrorism suspects, without exception, apprehended within its borders. In two cases the Bush administration moved terrorist suspects captured on U.S. soil out of the criminal justice system and into military detention as “enemy combatants.” Both suspects, though, were eventually moved back to the civilian system after serious legal and constitutional challenges. Both men, Jose Padilla and Ali al-Marri, were convicted and are serving prison sentences.

  5. urstupidnourstupid Says:

    That’s the same thing as not to question the President during a time of war and all that stuff? Ok. If you say so. But I would call it borderline schizophrenic.

    More on the court system later.

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