Giving props

As much as I hate this legislation and I distrust this administration, I must give them props for taking this on. It does show an inkling of pragmatism even if its because they are doing this under duress. There was a amendment to the bill that addressed this issue that was shut down my democrats. I can already tell you what the argument will be from the right. They will want this legislation to say that this should state that people that are here now illegally, will not be able to obain health care insurance when this bill is fully functional. That will never happen but it really is a whole other debate.

From NBC’s Mike Viqueira
The White House tonight is providing the below clarification on what the president’s health-care proposals would mean when it comes to the issue of illegal immigrants.

The question, as we all know, arises from the Wilson “You lie” outburst, and the core claim that notwithstanding specific bill language barring illegal immigrants from participating in the “exchange,” as a practical matter, there is no way of verifying the citizenship of applicants — which is the current state of play. Republicans say that then means illegal immigrants would end up being enrolled in plans — bill language or no bill language.

Today, for the first time as far as we know, the administration is backing a provision that would require proof of citizenship before someone could enroll in a plan selected on the exchange.

Here, the administration also concedes that hospitals would be compensated with public funds for the care of undocumented immigrants.

The bullet points sent tonight by the White House:

Undocumented immigrants would not be able to buy private insurance on the exchange. Those who are lawfully present in this country would be able to participate.
Undocumented immigrants would be able to buy insurance in the non-exchange private market, just as they do today. That market will shrink as the exchange takes hold, but it will still exist and will be subject to reforms such as the bans on pre-existing conditions and caps.
Verification will be required when purchasing health insurance on the exchange. One option is the SAVE program (Systematic Alien Verification for Entitlements) which states currently use to make sure that undocumented immigrants don’t participate in safety-net programs for which they are ineligible.
There would be no change in the law that requires emergency rooms to treat people who need emergency care, including undocumented immigrants. There is already a federal grant program that compensates states for emergency room costs associated with treatment of undocumented immigrants, a provision sponsored by a Republican lawmaker.

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3 Responses to “Giving props”

  1. urstupidnourstupid Says:

    This is where the rubber hits the road…and I may have to get all common-sense on you here. Now…we both are against illegal immigration. I am, you are, most people are. But, if 11 million illegals continue using emergency rooms for primary care, guess who that hurts? Citizens. Now, if the point of private and public insurance is to lower cost (by pooling) then doesn’t it especially make sense to INCLUDE illegals? I can hear you now saying “this just gives them incentive to come here.” Well guess what…they’re coming no matter what. Which is why we nned to enforce the border and laws against employing illegals. But if they are here, we should try to get them to use medical services in the cheapest way possible. Because they WILL use them, one way or the other. I assume you completely disagree, but you can’t if you are a fiscal conservative.

    And this discussion could never be held in the public forum, because all the right-wingers would shout it down and start race-baiting and scaring people and saying Obama wants to insure illegals. But the truth is, it would be cheaper. But that cannot be said, and that is a shame. And that is why the “conservative” message gets lost–because it has been hi-jacked by right wingers.

  2. urstupidnourstupid Says:

    I am patently against anything like this. They are here illegally. Saying “they are here anyway” doesn’t work for me. And it’s not race baiting. That’s just your view of it.

  3. urstupidnourstupid Says:

    That, my friend, is rigid idealism in full swing.

    Are the 11 milliion illegals going to leave the US and go home? No
    Do all people need medical care? Yes
    Is the ER the most expensive place to get primary care? Yes
    Will illegals use the ER if they must? Yes

    Simple logic man. Again, I am AGAINST illegal immigration. But I am looking for the best answers, not the most political or idealogical ones. You know that I am logically and fiscally correct on this.

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